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The Stone Roses were one of the most influential bands to come out of Britain during the late 1980s and early '90s. Along with the Happy Mondays, they comprised the core of the Madchester Baggy scene, centered around Manchester, England, though purists would argue that "Madchester" happened around The Stone Roses without them being an active part of it. Certainly, they weren't a Factory Records band. Ian Brown hated the term "Madchester" and took offence with interviewers who referred to them as such.

Formed during the early-1980s from the remnants of a local Manchester band called 'The Patrol' among other early names. The line-up featured Ian Brown (vocals), John Squire (guitar), Gary Mounfield - "Mani" (bass), and Alan Wren - "Reni" (drums). Early members such as Andy Couzens and Pete Garner had a great influence on them, but aren't regarded as members of the band. They are considered to be one of the founders of the Britpop music genre (see Oasis, Blur, and Radiohead). Indeed, Liam Gallagher got his desire to be a rock star after he seeing a Stone Roses performance as part of the anti-Clause 28 concert at Manchester's International Two venue (May 30, 1988) and had been blown over by Ian's stage presence. Although Ian was a technically poor singer, he was a natural showman and held the crowd in the palm of his hand throughout. His style has also been mirrored in the likes of The Charlatans' frontman Tim Burgess and, in their early days, Blur's Damon Albarn.

They released a self-titled album in 1989 after five singles, "So Young/Tell Me", "Sally Cinnamon" (both with different labels) and the Silvertone singles "Elephant Stone", "Made Of Stone" and "She Bangs The Drums" followed to moderate success. Their double A side single originally titled 'What the World is Waiting For' but more famous for Fools Gold on the flip side charted in the UK at no. 8 in November 1989 - at the time a true rarity for an "indie" record, and is still regarded as a classic of the genre. A flood of re-issued singles followed during the next few years, as well as an extended legal battle with their record label, Silvertone (They were Silvertone's first signing, the label was created to get the "new rock beat" by Jive/Zomba, a profoundly dance and R&B label). The band failed to consult a specialist lawyer and so signed a contract which was a "restraint of trade", grossly favourable to Silvertone, and therefore illegal. They played several legendary live shows, including the 'Ally Pally' gig at North London's Alexandra Palace on November 25, 1989, and one on Spike Island in the middle of the River Mersey, surrounded by chemical plants, May 27, 1990.

Eventually they wrangled themselves out of their contract with Silvertone and signed a large contract with Geffen Records. In early 1995, the Stone Roses released their long-awaited follow-up album, Second Coming. The music was heavily influenced by John Squire's guitar, with a heavy rock sound reminiscent at times of Led Zeppelin. In the five year gap since The Stone Roses, expectations were high, and the album was seen as a let-down by much of the music press.

During the recording of Second Coming, their character showed if their music did not. During one session, they required a sample of breaking glass. Rather than throw a brick through the nearest studio window (which would have been quite acceptable), they brought along a pane of glass, a brick and a dustpan with brush.

The band began to dismantle with the departure of Reni, who was followed on 1 April 1996 by John Squire. The band persevered for another year before Ian Brown and Mani dissolved the group after a disastrous performance at the Reading Music Festival at which disappointed fans booed the band, and threw things at the stage.

John Squire formed the Seahorses, who released one album before breaking up. In 2002 Squire released his first solo album, Time Changes Everything and followed this up with 2004's Marshall's House. Mani joined indie-dance act Primal Scream as bassist. Ian Brown has released four solo albums to some success, and has regularly entertained crowds at some of Britain's biggest music festivals. Reni started a new band called The Rub in 1999, and played several gigs, the Manchester University concert the most notable as the band, including former Rose Pete Garner, was introduced by Mani. Nothing has been heard of The Rub since that tour, although in early 2004 John Squire claimed that Reni had recorded an "interesting" solo album.

In August 2004, Ian Brown surprised fans in Belfast and Surrey by playing sets consisting mainly of old Stone Roses numbers from the 1989-90 set. Brown followed this up by performing a mixture of Roses numbers and his own material on his UK tour later in the year. At his return gig in Manchester, not only did he perform seven Roses tracks, including "Waterfall", "I Wanna Be Adored" and "She Bangs The Drums," but was joined on stage for a bow by Mani, bringing the two former Roses members on stage together for the first time in over 8 years. Brown was also joined by Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher to perform the single they wrote together, "Keep What Ya Got," and DJ James Lavelle, whose group UNKLE released "Reign" featuring both Brown and Mani later in the year, reaching number 40 in the UK singles charts.


Personnel

Classic Line-up (November 1987 - March 1995)

  • Ian Brown, lead vocals
  • John Squire, guitar and backing vocals
  • Mani (Gary Mounfield), bass
  • Reni (Alan Wren), percussion, backing vocals

Other members

  • Andy Couzens, guitarist. Left band in July 1986.
  • Pete Garner, bass. (February 1984 to August 1987)
  • Cressa, (Steve Cressa) unoffical 5th member of band and live guitar effects technician (1989-1990)
  • Robbie Maddix, percussion. He replaced Reni in April 1995
  • Nigel Ippison, keyboards. Performed keyboards with the band during the latter stages of the Second Coming tour from July 1995 onwards.
  • Aziz Ibrahim, guitar. He replaced John Squire in April 1996.


Discography

Albums

  • The Stone Roses (1989)
  • Second Coming (1994)


Compilations

  • Turns Into Stone (1992)
  • The Complete Stone Roses (1995)
  • Garage Flower (1996)
  • Remixes (1996)
  • The Very Best of The Stone Roses (2002)


Singles

  • So Young (September 1985)
  • Sally Cinammon (May 1987)
  • Elephant Stone (October 1988)
  • Made Of Stone (Feburary 1989)
  • She Bangs The Drums (July 1989)
  • Fools Gold/What The World Is Waiting For (November 1989)
  • One Love (July 1990)
  • I Wanna Be Adored (September 1991)
  • Waterfall (January 1992)
  • I Am The Resurrection (April 1992)
  • Love Spreads (November 1994)
  • Ten Storey Love Song (Feburary 1995)
  • Begging You (November 1995)

Plaudits

The debut album has consistently performed well in critics' best album lists, eg:

  • In 2003, the music magazine NME voted their debut album the #1 greatest album of all time, ahead of Pixies and The Beach Boys. [1] (http://www.rocklist.net/nmes_100_best_albums.htm)
  • In June 2004, the British newspaper The Observer listed their debut album as the #1 best British album of all time (beating The Beatles and The Rolling Stones) after compiling the views of 100 newspaper staff and musicians. [2] (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1240034,00.html)

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. Glen Phillips has since embarked on a solo career, and Todd Nichols went on to form the band Lapdog, which currently includes Randy Guss and formerly included Dean Dinning. Other members. Toad the Wet Sprocket formally broke up in July 1998, citing creative differences and strain on the foursome's friendship. Classic Line-up (November 1987 - March 1995). Their best-known album is 1991's Fear, which featured the hit singles "All I Want" and "Walk on the Ocean".
. Toad the Wet Sprocket released six original LPs, one compilation album, various singles, a music video compilation, and one live recording, who reissued their independently produced debut Bread and Circus in 1989.

Brown was also joined by Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher to perform the single they wrote together, "Keep What Ya Got," and DJ James Lavelle, whose group UNKLE released "Reign" featuring both Brown and Mani later in the year, reaching number 40 in the UK singles charts. The band formed in 1986 at San Marcos High School in Santa Barbara, California, and drew their name from the John Cleese monologue "Rock Notes" on Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album (1980). At his return gig in Manchester, not only did he perform seven Roses tracks, including "Waterfall", "I Wanna Be Adored" and "She Bangs The Drums," but was joined on stage for a bow by Mani, bringing the two former Roses members on stage together for the first time in over 8 years. Toad the Wet Sprocket was an American folk pop band consisting of singer Glen Phillips, guitarist Todd Nichols, bassist Dean Dinning, and drummer Randy Guss. Brown followed this up by performing a mixture of Roses numbers and his own material on his UK tour later in the year. "Instant Karma" (remake of John Lennon song). In August 2004, Ian Brown surprised fans in Belfast and Surrey by playing sets consisting mainly of old Stone Roses numbers from the 1989-90 set. Working Class Hero: A Tribute To John Lennon (1995)

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    Nothing has been heard of The Rub since that tour, although in early 2004 John Squire claimed that Reni had recorded an "interesting" solo album. "Stories I Tell" (from Fear). Reni started a new band called The Rub in 1999, and played several gigs, the Manchester University concert the most notable as the band, including former Rose Pete Garner, was introduced by Mani. Ultimate Athlete: Pushing The Limits soundtrack (1994)

      . Ian Brown has released four solo albums to some success, and has regularly entertained crowds at some of Britain's biggest music festivals. "This Is My Life" (previously unreleased). Mani joined indie-dance act Primal Scream as bassist. Stop Handgun Violence (2000)
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        In 2002 Squire released his first solo album, Time Changes Everything and followed this up with 2004's Marshall's House. "Brother" (collected on In Light Syrup). John Squire formed the Seahorses, who released one album before breaking up. So I Married an Axe Murderer soundtrack (1993)

          . The band persevered for another year before Ian Brown and Mani dissolved the group after a disastrous performance at the Reading Music Festival at which disappointed fans booed the band, and threw things at the stage. "Fly From Heaven" (from Dulcinea). The band began to dismantle with the departure of Reni, who was followed on 1 April 1996 by John Squire. The Best of Columbia Records Radio Hour Volume 2 (1996)
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            Rather than throw a brick through the nearest studio window (which would have been quite acceptable), they brought along a pane of glass, a brick and a dustpan with brush. "Acid" (previously unreleased?). During one session, they required a sample of breaking glass. II: Music For Our Mother Ocean compilation (1997)

              . During the recording of Second Coming, their character showed if their music did not. M.O.M. In the five year gap since The Stone Roses, expectations were high, and the album was seen as a let-down by much of the music press. "Rock and Roll All Night" (remake of KISS song).

              The music was heavily influenced by John Squire's guitar, with a heavy rock sound reminiscent at times of Led Zeppelin. Kiss My Ass (1994 KISS tribute album)

                . In early 1995, the Stone Roses released their long-awaited follow-up album, Second Coming. "Hey Bulldog" (remake of Beatles song). Eventually they wrangled themselves out of their contract with Silvertone and signed a large contract with Geffen Records. I Know What You Did Last Summer soundtrack (1997)
                  . They played several legendary live shows, including the 'Ally Pally' gig at North London's Alexandra Palace on November 25, 1989, and one on Spike Island in the middle of the River Mersey, surrounded by chemical plants, May 27, 1990. "Good Intentions" (collected on In Light Syrup).

                  The band failed to consult a specialist lawyer and so signed a contract which was a "restraint of trade", grossly favourable to Silvertone, and therefore illegal. Friends soundtrack (1995)

                    . A flood of re-issued singles followed during the next few years, as well as an extended legal battle with their record label, Silvertone (They were Silvertone's first signing, the label was created to get the "new rock beat" by Jive/Zomba, a profoundly dance and R&B label). "Something's Always Wrong" (from Dulcinea). Their double A side single originally titled 'What the World is Waiting For' but more famous for Fools Gold on the flip side charted in the UK at no. 8 in November 1989 - at the time a true rarity for an "indie" record, and is still regarded as a classic of the genre. Fear soundtrack (1996)
                      . They released a self-titled album in 1989 after five singles, "So Young/Tell Me", "Sally Cinnamon" (both with different labels) and the Silvertone singles "Elephant Stone", "Made Of Stone" and "She Bangs The Drums" followed to moderate success. "Crazy Life" (from Coil).

                      His style has also been mirrored in the likes of The Charlatans' frontman Tim Burgess and, in their early days, Blur's Damon Albarn. Empire Records soundtrack (1995)

                        . Although Ian was a technically poor singer, he was a natural showman and held the crowd in the palm of his hand throughout. "Fall Down" (from Dulcinea). Indeed, Liam Gallagher got his desire to be a rock star after he seeing a Stone Roses performance as part of the anti-Clause 28 concert at Manchester's International Two venue (May 30, 1988) and had been blown over by Ian's stage presence. Drop Zone soundtrack (1994)
                          . They are considered to be one of the founders of the Britpop music genre (see Oasis, Blur, and Radiohead). "Walk on the Ocean" (from Fear (Toad the Wet Sprocket album)).

                          Early members such as Andy Couzens and Pete Garner had a great influence on them, but aren't regarded as members of the band. Coca-Cola sampler (1991)

                            . The line-up featured Ian Brown (vocals), John Squire (guitar), Gary Mounfield - "Mani" (bass), and Alan Wren - "Reni" (drums). "Cinnamon Girl" (live; previously unreleased). Formed during the early-1980s from the remnants of a local Manchester band called 'The Patrol' among other early names. Columbia Indestructible compilation
                              . Ian Brown hated the term "Madchester" and took offence with interviewers who referred to them as such. "Little Heaven" (collected on In Light Syrup).

                              Certainly, they weren't a Factory Records band. Buffy the Vampire Slayer soundtrack (1992)

                                . Along with the Happy Mondays, they comprised the core of the Madchester Baggy scene, centered around Manchester, England, though purists would argue that "Madchester" happened around The Stone Roses without them being an active part of it. "Walk on the Ocean". The Stone Roses were one of the most influential bands to come out of Britain during the late 1980s and early '90s. "All I Want". [2] (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1240034,00.html). Seven Songs Seldom Seen (1992 music video compilation)
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                                  In June 2004, the British newspaper The Observer listed their debut album as the #1 best British album of all time (beating The Beatles and The Rolling Stones) after compiling the views of 100 newspaper staff and musicians. Come Down CD single (1996). [1] (http://www.rocklist.net/nmes_100_best_albums.htm). Fly From Heaven CD single (1995). In 2003, the music magazine NME voted their debut album the #1 greatest album of all time, ahead of Pixies and The Beach Boys. Acoustic Dance Party (1994 live album). Begging You (November 1995). Fall Down CD single (1994).

                                  Ten Storey Love Song (Feburary 1995). All I Want CD single (1992). Love Spreads (November 1994). Five Live promo CD (1992). I Am The Resurrection (April 1992). Recorded live in Santa Barbara, California on September 30, 1992. Waterfall (January 1992). Welcome Home: Live At The Arlington Theatre, Santa Barbara 1992 (released on October 19, 2004)

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                                    I Wanna Be Adored (September 1991). "Silo Lullaby". One Love (July 1990). "P.S.". Fools Gold/What The World Is Waiting For (November 1989). (A Toad Retrospective) (1999) (contains two new tracks)

                                      . She Bangs The Drums (July 1989). P.S.

                                      Made Of Stone (Feburary 1989). "Crazy Life". Elephant Stone (October 1988). "Come Down". Sally Cinammon (May 1987). Coil (1997)

                                        . So Young (September 1985). "Good Intentions".

                                        The Very Best of The Stone Roses (2002). "Brother". Remixes (1996). In Light Syrup (1995) RIAA certified Gold

                                          . Garage Flower (1996). "Fall Down". The Complete Stone Roses (1995). "Something's Always Wrong".

                                          Turns Into Stone (1992). Dulcinea (1994) RIAA certified Platinum

                                            . Second Coming (1994). "All I Want". The Stone Roses (1989). "Walk on the Ocean". He replaced John Squire in April 1996. Fear (1991) RIAA certified Platinum
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                                              Aziz Ibrahim, guitar. Pale (1990). Performed keyboards with the band during the latter stages of the Second Coming tour from July 1995 onwards. Bread and Circus (1989). Nigel Ippison, keyboards. He replaced Reni in April 1995.

                                              Robbie Maddix, percussion. Cressa, (Steve Cressa) unoffical 5th member of band and live guitar effects technician (1989-1990). (February 1984 to August 1987). Pete Garner, bass.

                                              Left band in July 1986. Andy Couzens, guitarist. Reni (Alan Wren), percussion, backing vocals. Mani (Gary Mounfield), bass.

                                              John Squire, guitar and backing vocals. Ian Brown, lead vocals.